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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 5, 2018 20:06:41 GMT 12
Here's a new page for those following the return to Reno, Nevada of the Yak 3 "Full Noise", pilot Graeme Frew, and the support team who're all WONZ Forum members. Follow the udates on their Facebook page here: www.facebook.com/pg/fullnoise35/posts/?ref=page_internalLet's get behind the team and give them heaps of support! It's going to be a really interesting one to see the aircraft return after such a successful 2017 debut!  |
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Post by planecrazy on Sept 5, 2018 20:17:48 GMT 12
This will be cool, was there ever some in cockpit footage put on UTube from last year?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 8, 2018 13:32:30 GMT 12
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Post by snaffle on Sept 10, 2018 2:37:49 GMT 12
Hi Guys, just found this forum. I am a Connecticut Yankee who likes Yaks and thinks highly of Mr. Frew's efforts at Reno. I am a, 40 year, retired professional pilot, who currently owns and flies a Pitts S-2B, but just loves everything that flies. Birds, bullets, arrows and airplanes. So, Graeme is shooting for over 400 mph, this will put him in good company with Sea Furys and the like but, how to do it? Horse power, the Allison V-1710-111 puts out 1500hp at best but, I've heard of marine applications of up to 2300hp. Without giving away any secrets how do you speculate that over 400mph can be achieved with a Yak 3M? Without Strega,Voodoo, or Rare Bear the competition will be interesting. A cool video by Kermit Weeks on the Vintage V-12 engine rebuild shop can be found on you tube. www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kermit+weeks+vintage+V12+shop&&view=detail&mid=8F28B02E02267BFF3CD48F28B02E02267BFF3CD4&&FORM=VRDGAR |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Sept 10, 2018 6:59:08 GMT 12
Welcome snaffle, great to have you on board! Somewhere there is an interview with Graeme where he describes his tests with the aircraft at home and what power the engine is capable of developing without too much stress. He is confident of achieving 400+ mph. He also comments on the power-weight advantage the Yak has and subsequently the more efficient race-line he can achieve over the heavier birds
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Post by planecrazy on Sept 10, 2018 8:55:36 GMT 12
Realised Voodoo wasn't running but no Strega as well, this will bring things back to earth
a little. Those two modified Mustangs just left everything for dead, will miss that sound!
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Post by snaffle on Sept 10, 2018 10:26:48 GMT 12
Thank you johnnyfalcon. Ah yes, the "little Yak", I believe that the Bearcat goes by the same physics, in that small makes for better performance, just don't try to load too many weapons on it. What I have found on the internet states that the Yak 3 will do 407 mph below 15000ft with the Klimov engine, I look at those numbers with skepticism. I do note that in 2011 a Yak-3UPW set the world speed record for aircraft under 3000kg with an average speed of 407mph, one run being 416. This was done with a P&W R-2000 engine. Yes, nothing like the noise of Strega or Voodoo.
Edit: While some of you might have known that Steadfast ended up in Australia, I did not know that. Ah, a pattern for Full Noise.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 11, 2018 14:02:54 GMT 12
Bloody nice!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 20:05:15 GMT 12
A great start to race week for everyone's favourite Yak! For comparison with last year, due to the engine issue and change Full Noise didn't qualify but went straight into Heat 1C...which Graeme won with a speed of 308.895. It's amazing to see that today's speed was better than the best they ran last year, 345.277mph during Heat 3B! Also: doing 356 during a qual that started at 3.56? How cool! I think livestreaming begins tomorrow, although there's no sign of a link on airrace.org as yet. If it does launch, here's the schedule for tomorrow's festivities at Stead:  Tuesday 9-11-18 schedule by Zac Yates, on Flickr Time difference converters online tell me 8am Tuesday in Reno is 3am tomorrow here. EDIT: I found the tweet, they said livestreaming starts Thursday their time. |
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Post by planecrazy on Sept 11, 2018 21:15:51 GMT 12
Thanks for the update Zak, will be watching!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 16:23:11 GMT 12
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Post by planecrazy on Sept 12, 2018 19:20:44 GMT 12
How cool is it to see Blenheim New Zealand in there, also spotted Ardmore,
yes I know irrelevant trivia, hey Zac is there a live U Tube channel?
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Post by colford on Sept 13, 2018 10:02:27 GMT 12
Reno Race 1 pairings, race occurs 10.33AM Friday morning NZ time, 8.33AM AEST Friday morning Australia east coast time - yes there are quite a few of us across the ditch who are following and supporting Full Noise's 2018 Reno campaign.  Reno Race 1 Pairings by Colin Ford, on Flickr The Reno Air Race website should have link to live stream commentary come race day. airrace.org/Cheers. |
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 13, 2018 11:13:23 GMT 12
I didn't understand what this tells me about what is going to happen. I can see the qualifying times and placings, but 'pairings' suggests one-on-one races? 1st races 6th, 2nd vs 5th etc?
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Post by colford on Sept 13, 2018 12:05:25 GMT 12
Hi Errol,
The Reno race process as I understand it is that out of the 15 aircraft that qualified for the Unlimited class of racing, they will have a series of Heats where aircraft that qualified in speed/time brackets will race in their heats with the aim of setting speed/times that will progress them through Heats 2 and 3 to the Silver and Gold classes finals of the Unlimited Class. So the above shows who Full Noise will be up against in their first heat and the qualifying speeds of the aircraft they are up against in their heat - placings 4 thru 9 in the qualifying times. The top three qualifiers I think get direct qualification into later round of heats for the Gold finals. So those aircraft that qualified in places 10 to 15 will be in another heat. From the first set of heats they then set out who qualifies in the second and third set of heats to ultimately decide who goes into the Silver and Gold races. So there are three heats, two Finals races - Silver and Gold. It is a process that takes some getting your head around.
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 13, 2018 12:30:14 GMT 12
Thanks, I think. Do they go line abreast at the start pylon then? Or timed runs in sequence?
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Post by colford on Sept 13, 2018 12:53:59 GMT 12
Line abreast at the start pylon, starter is in a 'Pace' aircraft, this year I believe a T-33. He visually checks the line up and makes the call if they have a race start.
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Post by Brett on Sept 13, 2018 13:04:56 GMT 12
All Unlimited races start line-abreast on a run in from behind and to the right of the crowd on a direct course to the Start pylon near pylon 4. A jet acts as a pace setter and tries to keep them all roughly in a line.
This means they start outside the course itself, which gives them space to form up and complete checks, then they set a straight course for the Start pylon. Once the starter in happy they are in a line (or more correctly that no-one is in front of the line), they are released ("Gentlemen, you have a race") for a drag race to the Start pylon. They do not have to stay in a line after they are released, so by the time they get to the Start pylon they are generally already spread out a bit and are flying their racing lines. Starting this way means they cut inside pylons 2 and 3 before hitting the far turn which starts at pylon 4, which has the effect of bringing the planes closer to the crowd on the start.
Then they orbit the pylons in an anti-clockwise direction for the prescribed number of laps, finishing at the Home pylon which is located at crowd centre.
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 13, 2018 14:35:29 GMT 12
Cheers all
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Post by planecrazy on Sept 13, 2018 14:43:22 GMT 12
All Unlimited races start line-abreast on a run in from behind and to the right of the crowd on a direct course to the Start pylon near pylon 4. A jet acts as a pace setter and tries to keep them all roughly in a line. This means they start outside the course itself, which gives them space to form up and complete checks, then they set a straight course for the Start pylon. Once the starter in happy they are in a line (or more correctly that no-one is in front of the line), they are released ("Gentlemen, you have a race") for a drag race to the Start pylon. They do not have to stay in a line after they are released, so by the time they get to the Start pylon they are generally already spread out a bit and are flying their racing lines. Starting this way means they cut inside pylons 2 and 3 before hitting the far turn which starts at pylon 4, which has the effect of bringing the planes closer to the crowd on the start. Then they orbit the pylons in an anti-clockwise direction for the prescribed number of laps, finishing at the Home pylon which is located at crowd centre. Thanks for that great description, so I'm presuming the fastest time in the heats gets the inner most or left hand slot which is closer to the pylons and therefore an advantage? |
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