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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 5, 2024 9:10:56 GMT 12
A few hangovers this morning at Whenuapai?
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Post by tbf2504 on Sept 5, 2024 9:15:02 GMT 12
The arrival of the first C-130J-30 is an important milestone in the Air Force history, as this aircraft no longer requires the employment of a Flight Engineer, and sees the demise of this great trade.
Flight Engineers were first employed by the Air Force in the Singapore III Flying Boats in 1941. (They were initially engine riggers before the Flight Engineer Branch was created) The Sunderland MkIII were the next to employ Flight Engineers, and post-war the Hastings, DC6, C-130H/K and the P-3B/K carried them. Occasionally a Flight Engineer/Ground tradie was carried on C-47 long distance flights. The C-130J-30 also does away with the Navigator role restricting those fine persons to just the P-8A. I guess the next iteration will be completely autonomous aircraft where no human will be required. Not in lifetime I trust!
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Post by tbf2504 on Sept 5, 2024 9:30:23 GMT 12
OOps, the one I overlooked was the Catalinas from 1943
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Post by tbf2504 on Sept 5, 2024 9:38:27 GMT 12
Apologies to the Engine Fitters, mistakenly called riggers in my original post!
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Post by camtech on Sept 5, 2024 17:32:35 GMT 12
OOps, the one I overlooked was the Catalinas from 1943 Also the Mk 5 Sunderlands from 1952. Bristol Freighters and Andovers also carried groundies as "Flight Engineers". |
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Post by machina on Sept 5, 2024 17:45:37 GMT 12
What’s the crew for the new ones then, 2 pilots and a Loadmaster?
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Post by tbf2504 on Sept 6, 2024 14:01:34 GMT 12
The standard crew for the C-130J-30 in our service is two pilots, and one or two loadmasters depending on the task. Like the C130H I would think that a couple of ground trade personnel would accompany the aircraft on long overseas missions, providing of course that can carry out rectification work on minor snags
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 10, 2024 13:18:57 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 10, 2024 14:42:22 GMT 12
I see HERC11 did three passes along Auckland waterfront yesterday.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 11, 2024 8:46:38 GMT 12
This was posted last night on Facebook. Setting off in quarter of an hour. C-130J-30 Flight Alert ✈️ Our new C-130J Hercules will be taking its first flight over New Zealand tomorrow, Wednesday 11 September. These flights enable the crew to start the aircraft’s testing and evaluation programme. Weather and operational conditions permitting, the flight plan and approximate times are as follows (subject to change): Base Auckland - 0900 Base Ohakea - 1010 - 1110 Christchurch airport - 1225 - 1325 Base Woodbourne - 1415 - 1515 Base Auckland - 1640 Have you spotted the new aircraft? Share your photos and videos in the comments |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 11, 2024 9:11:29 GMT 12
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sluf007
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Post by sluf007 on Sept 15, 2024 18:33:06 GMT 12
I think Ron Mark should be reconised for has astute decision on picking the C130-J. If we had bought another type such as KC-390 it would have exposed the country to far more cost as as the operational build up would have been from zero to operations which in some cases can take years. By buying the Herc it is more getting used to all the Digital stuff and new weight and balance regime due to it,s extended length. As for 757 replacement we should go the Airbus MRT with arial refuling capability still attached as that would make us common with Aussie and again like the Herc we would have access to there Sim,s etc. It would also give more range and payload. People forget we are a bunch of Islands 1200 miles from our nearest neighbour so yes we need machines that can do the job.
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Post by snafu on Sept 15, 2024 22:42:45 GMT 12
I think Ron Mark should be reconised for has astute decision on picking the C130-J. If we had bought another type such as KC-390 it would have exposed the country to far more cost as as the operational build up would have been from zero to operations which in some cases can take years. By buying the Herc it is more getting used to all the Digital stuff and new weight and balance regime due to it,s extended length. As for 757 replacement we should go the Airbus MRT with arial refuling capability still attached as that would make us common with Aussie and again like the Herc we would have access to there Sim,s etc. It would also give more range and payload. People forget we are a bunch of Islands 1200 miles from our nearest neighbour so yes we need machines that can do the job. I agree he should be commended. If he wasn’t in I think you stilll would be talking about replacing But getting the J was a no brainer for quick introduction. But still A400M would have been alright they seem to be less news about it lately |
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Post by Calum on Sept 16, 2024 15:02:25 GMT 12
Pretty sure the RNZAF had a fairly big say in the choice of platform.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 25, 2024 7:41:47 GMT 12
Super Hercs NZ7012 and NZ7013 are on their way to New Zealand.
They are KIW926 and KIW939 on Flight Radar.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 25, 2024 7:43:48 GMT 12
They are travelling together and currently approaching Arkansas City.
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 25, 2024 9:29:32 GMT 12
Whew, have cleared Arkansas, where NZ7011 spent a few days.
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Post by hardyakka on Sept 25, 2024 12:06:08 GMT 12
Just landed at Travis Airforce Base in California.
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Post by Mustang51 on Sept 25, 2024 14:37:33 GMT 12
Travis, nice base. Spent some time there when we were doing the B25 and PV.1......what's the collective noun for a group of Hercs?
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Post by Antonio on Sept 25, 2024 14:47:57 GMT 12
Travis, nice base. Spent some time there when we were doing the B25 and PV.1......what's the collective noun for a group of Hercs? Brute |
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