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Post by Mustang51 on Feb 15, 2023 11:38:43 GMT 12
So sorry to hear that Dave. My condolences to his family, relatives and friends. These men and women who literally put themselves in harm's way for us should receive the highest praise for what they do day-in and day-out.
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 15, 2023 13:55:15 GMT 12
From Vodafone CEO Some of our engineers are flying down to Gisborne today (on an airplane we’ve dubbed Air Force One;) with a load of small cell sites and satellite gear to help restore interim connectivity to the region.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Feb 15, 2023 19:21:53 GMT 12
I live in an apartment building immediately next to the Mt Eden Colonial Ammunition Company shot tower which was apparently in danger of collapsing, fortunately I'm on a middle floor and far enough away from it that I didn't have to leave the building but some of the closest apartments have been 'red stickered' presumably until they decide what to do with the tower.
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 16, 2023 6:19:59 GMT 12
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Post by Mustang51 on Feb 16, 2023 7:03:18 GMT 12
Have been closely watching your news from Oz. My heart goes out to all those displaced and moreso to those whose homes have now been destroyed or are totally unliveable.
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Post by obiwan27 on Feb 16, 2023 11:32:42 GMT 12
This is "season change" Ando. It was flipping cold rain and wind, and most of the leaves have come off the trees, so my conspiracy theory is we are now in Autumn. However we have not actually had a summer here in the Waikato. Most days over the past two months have only reached about 26C maximum, which is all good by me. Very levelheaded take Dave. We have had a warm and dry summer in the main down south, which has now been interrupted by some cooler temperatures and variation ahead as we head towards Autumn. One observes media/political discourse/hype on climate change links to these recent extereme weather events. NIWA has a good series of reports on various regions that my main takeaway is that historically we have extreme weather events occasionally. niwa.co.nz/our-science/climate/publications/regional-climatologiesMaybe some focus on that and investment in critical infrastructure improvement and adaptation would be better?
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Post by typerated on Feb 16, 2023 11:52:24 GMT 12
This is "season change" Ando. It was flipping cold rain and wind, and most of the leaves have come off the trees, so my conspiracy theory is we are now in Autumn. However we have not actually had a summer here in the Waikato. Most days over the past two months have only reached about 26C maximum, which is all good by me. Very levelheaded take Dave. We have had a warm and dry summer in the main down south, which has now been interrupted by some cooler temperatures and variation ahead as we head towards Autumn. One observes media/political discourse/hype on climate change links to these recent extereme weather events. NIWA has a good series of reports on various regions that my main takeaway is that historically we have extreme weather events occasionally. niwa.co.nz/our-science/climate/publications/regional-climatologiesMaybe some focus on that and investment in critical infrastructure improvement and adaptation would be better? Funny NIWA has a good section on Climate Change - you could learn a lot! niwa.co.nz/climate-changeand just as an aside 2022 was the hottest year on record in NZ www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/01/weather-2022-warmest-year-for-new-zealand-on-record-sunniest-and-coldest-locations-revealed.html
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 16, 2023 12:10:40 GMT 12
I am not getting into any debate, and such political debates are not welcome here.
However I find this interesting. I read through the old newspapers most evenings looking for interesting photos and stories. I have been reading the NZ Herald through the 1930s recently, and this week just after the cyclone passed through I came to stories in August 1938 of a very similar devastating storm hitting the North island causing major damage and flooding, wiping out bridges, cutting off towns, etc. I saw some photos of flooded farm land in the Esk Valley. I had been looking at flooding in the same Esk Valley from now, just earlier that evening! There is nothing new under the sun...
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Post by typerated on Feb 16, 2023 12:16:09 GMT 12
Climate change is science - not politics!
and I'll repeat for the hard of understanding - 2022 was the warmest year on record in NZ!
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Post by l29 on Feb 16, 2023 15:22:42 GMT 12
Ah the old "climate change" brigade are here. I'm sure paying more tax will fix it.
Anyone know if any hangars are underwater?
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Feb 16, 2023 17:33:40 GMT 12
Ardmore appears to have escaped without any damage other than a few downed trees. Mercer airfield is in the middle of an area which is pretty heavily flooded but from what I could see from the air yesterday the runway and hangars all appeared to be dry.
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Post by falcon124 on Feb 16, 2023 19:26:42 GMT 12
The thing to watch for is how often these extreme events occur. If the last one was in 1936 then the next shouldn't be for 50+ years. Here in Oz we've had multiple "100 year" events which is rather frustrating for the poor buggers in those areas experiencing them Meanwhile, if you want to get a handle on all this, have a chat with an insurance actuary or a bookie running the sweep on major events. Those buggers are rather clued in and the former are why it's getting very hard to arrange property insurance in some parts of Oz these days. Coincidence? Woke? Pandering to politics & MSM? Unlikely given profits are involved & insurance companies don't get their names on buildings by taking risks and/or paying out
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Post by scrooge on Feb 16, 2023 20:14:41 GMT 12
Ah, the old 'climate change deniers' brigade are here. etc etc
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Post by Mustang51 on Feb 16, 2023 21:31:54 GMT 12
A 1 in 100 year storm can occur every day. That relates to the !% ARI and is based on probable rainfall intensity....it does not relate to a specific period between intense storm events. Over the 1% ARI you have the PMF which is ....BAD
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 17, 2023 11:37:07 GMT 12
Wings Over Wairarapa 2023 has announced the event is postponed due to the cyclone and issues surrounding it. Kia ora, It is with some sadness that the board of the Wings Over Wairarapa are announcing that they have postponed the Air Festival which was scheduled to be held at Hood Aerodrome in Masterton from February 24 – 26 2023. The Festival was set to draw in the crowds in February with the biennial show delivering one of the largest displays of aircraft in New Zealand. Board Chairman and former Defence Minister Ron Mark, shared how difficult the decision has been for organisers to postpone. “The board and management team has been reviewing the evolving situation with the impacts of Cyclone Gabrielle on the nation for some days. Being cognizant, of the level of devastation, and loss of life that has afflicted our neighboring regions and their communities, of where the priorities of the New Zealand Defence Force need to be at this time as well as the ongoing unpredictability of the weather, this is the right decision.” “The health and safety of pilots, staff, visitors and all those involved over the three-day event continue to be our priority. Our thoughts are with those people who have been impacted by this severe weather event. Kia kaha.” Ron Mark said, “an early postponement would also enable those attending time to adjust travel arrangements.” Wings General Manager Carla Steed, says as soon as a new Festival date has been confirmed it will be shared with the public. “We will be in a position to announce a new event date by 5pm, Sunday 26 February. We will not be processing refunds until the new date is announced and hope that people can still attend this incredible aviation event. When the new date is announced, ticket holders will be given the option at that point to transfer their tickets or request a full refund. “ “If you are scheduled to visit the Wairarapa for the weekend we highly encourage you to do so with so many attractions to see.” says Steed Where to from here? A new date will be announced by 5pm, Sunday 26th February 2023. I appreciate your patience whilst we work through how this process will work. Please keep an eye on our Facebook page and website for any further updates or announcements. Nga mihi Jodie Swanson Communications and Marketing Manager M: 0210699474
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Post by thomarse on Feb 17, 2023 13:48:06 GMT 12
I'm afraid that decision was inevitable.
I'm also afraid to say that we have only seen the tip of the proverbial iceberg as far as the Hawke's Bay event is concerned and I fear there is very disturbing news to unfold. Talking to a customer in Napier today, they are saying that damage-wise it's worse than the 1931 earthquake but I think that may be a bit OTT
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Post by tbf2504 on Feb 17, 2023 13:54:55 GMT 12
The use of six NH90s (from what I gather from the media reports) to assist with cyclone relief must be the biggest deployment of the type since they came into service.
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Post by thomarse on Feb 17, 2023 13:57:55 GMT 12
I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the C130s
Unless the runway at Wairoa was compromised in some way, a Herc would eat it
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Post by obiwan27 on Feb 17, 2023 14:25:49 GMT 12
Yes there's lots of informative information out there. Another great NIWA resource is their New Zealand Historic Weather Events Catalogue. "Welcome to the New Zealand Historic Weather Events Catalogue This is a catalogue of major weather events in New Zealand over the last 200 years from the 1800s to the present, when significant damage or casualties occurred. The information has been collated from newspaper reports, journals, books and databases kindly provided by various organisations and individuals. For each event we identify the regions affected, the hazards types associated with the event and the resulting impacts." hwe.niwa.co.nz/Sample search for the North island 14 April 1897: hwe.niwa.co.nz/event/April_1897_North_Island_FloodingIn relation to the current extreme weather event that has slammed Hawkes Bay and the Esk valley in particular, there's a website for the Esk River care group www.eskrivercare.org/esk-valley-floodsIt's interesting to view the photos of the 1938 flood in relation to the recent tragic events in the same location. :-) Put in a few parameters and lots of interesting historic data
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 17, 2023 14:50:08 GMT 12
I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the C130s Unless the runway at Wairoa was compromised in some way, a Herc would eat it I was idly wondering if a C-17 (with some bulky piece of vital equipment that couldn't get in by road currently) could use Gisborne. Dimensions are ok, not sure about weight?
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