Who is going to Warbirds over Wanaka 2010?

[Dave Homewood]

I wonder if the US military will be back there this year too.

[paddy]

My next door neighbour is part of the detachment for the Hornet in Wanaka.
I'll check with him to see how advanced it is.

[mcmaster]

first 4 super hornets due in at Amberley in April, you'd think unlikely for WOW but interesting convergence of dates. ;D

[Deleted]

I'd love to see the Canberra here. Would be nice for the USAF to return and possibly display something flying, fingers crossed they will do so in time.

[mcmaster]

I imagine the hornet would have to base at Christchurch to display at WOW (like the f111). This would mean the display will not be the same as the solo at Whenuapai earlier this year ie I assume it will have to carry at least one tank which will limit the display. However IMHO if they bring the 4 ship with formation display and mock airfield attack would be ideal.

[Deleted]

Peggy Krainz – German Wing-Walker and Stunt-Woman since 1999...

Warbirds Over Wanaka is bringing Peggy Krainz and Friedrich Walentin (Airshow Pilot and Peggy’s partner) from Germany especially to thrill you with their daring feats.

Their Boeing Stearman E75 is coming with them – an open cockpit two seater biplane - it is powered by a 9 cylinder – 450hp Pratt & Whitney radial, manufactured in 1942. With a 33ft wingspan and cruise of 83kts the Stearman aircraft is renowned for aerobatics and Peggy’s Stearman is also modified for Wing Walking.

Having completed more than 600 Wing-Walking displays for Airshows, TV and special events, Peggy has operated her own Wing-Walking Team since 2005. Peggy has her Private Pilot’s Licence and is also an aerobatic Flight Instructor. She loves to fly, especially the Stearman, also with her daughter Julia.

[Dave Homewood]

So, wouldn't that be five Air Forces then? RNZAF, RAAF, RAF, USAF and French?

I guess the French will bring their CASA transport that they bring to Whenuapai usually. It's a neat looking transport and exactly what NZ needs to re-equip no. 42 Squadron with I reckon.

Interesting to see the RAF are taking part. I wonder what they'll bring. It must be a long time since they appeared at a kiwi airshow. Was the last one the Harrier in 1992 at Mangere? Or was that a Royal Navy Harrier?

Maybe the RAF are bringing out the BBMF Lancaster and after the show it will do some local film work? ;D

[phil82]

Jan 13, 2010 16:42:49 GMT 12 Dave Homewood said:

So, wouldn't that be five Air Forces then? RNZAF, RAAF, RAF, USAF and French?

I guess the French will bring their CASA transport that they bring to Whenuapai usually. It's a neat looking transport and exactly what NZ needs to re-equip no. 42 Squadron with I reckon.

Interesting to see the RAF are taking part. I wonder what they'll bring. It must be a long time since they appeared at a kiwi airshow. Was the last one the Harrier in 1992 at Mangere? Or was that a Royal Navy Harrier?

Maybe the RAF are bringing out the BBMF Lancaster and after the show it will do some local film work? ;D

The Harrier at Mangere was RAF, in the markings of 20 Sqn, and it arrived in the back of one of those Russian freighters!

[Dave Homewood]

Thanks Colin, I thought it was RAF but wasn't certain.

[phil82]

Jan 14, 2010 11:14:19 GMT 12 Dave Homewood said:

Thanks Colin, I thought it was RAF but wasn't certain.

I recognised the 20 Sqn colours, because when I was at Tengah in 1966, 20 were there with the Hunter FGA9, and I had a 30 minute, totally mind-blowing, unforgettable, flight over the South China sea and Malaysia in a Hunter T-bird! It's a long story as to how I got it....

[phil82]

Jan 13, 2010 16:42:49 GMT 12 Dave Homewood said:

So, wouldn't that be five Air Forces then? RNZAF, RAAF, RAF, USAF and French?

I guess the French will bring their CASA transport that they bring to Whenuapai usually. It's a neat looking transport and exactly what NZ needs to re-equip no. 42 Squadron with I reckon.

Interesting to see the RAF are taking part. I wonder what they'll bring. It must be a long time since they appeared at a kiwi airshow. Was the last one the Harrier in 1992 at Mangere? Or was that a Royal Navy Harrier?

Maybe the RAF are bringing out the BBMF Lancaster and after the show it will do some local film work? ;D

Where did the rumour of an RAF appearance come from Dave, or is it just wishful thinking on someone's part? I will be very surprised if they do, given their commitment to the sandpit.

[the_flying_surfer]

"Representatives from the RAF" does not imply that any a/c will be attending. Most likely this is a reference to an exchange pilot/crewman/observer.

[phil82]

Jan 14, 2010 16:05:35 GMT 12 the_flying_surfer said:

"Representatives from the RAF" does not imply that any a/c will be attending. Most likely this is a reference to an exchange pilot/crewman/observer.

"So, wouldn't that be five Air Forces then? RNZAF, RAAF, RAF, USAF and French"?


That isn't what was intimated, and I doubt very much if anyone on exchange could be claimed to be representing a foreign air force, because in the job he's doing, he isn't! It's pulling a long bow to suggest it ! So far, any RAF appearance is just scuttlebut unless anyone, including the organisers, say differently.

My reading is that it's wishful rumour until facts catch up with whimsy!

[Dave Homewood]

Jan 14, 2010 15:17:43 GMT 12 phil82 said:

Where did the rumour of an RAF appearance come from Dave, or is it just wishful thinking on someone's part? I will be very surprised if they do, given their commitment to the sandpit.

Colin, the article just above states:

"Mrs Deans said four air forces were involved for the first time – the Royal New Zealand Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force, representatives from the Royal Air Force and French pilots from New Caledonia. "

As The Flying Surfer says, maybe it doesn't mean an aeroplane. But the "rumour" comes from the Airshow's organiser.

[phil82]

Jan 14, 2010 17:04:27 GMT 12 Dave Homewood said:

Jan 14, 2010 15:17:43 GMT 12 phil82 said:

Where did the rumour of an RAF appearance come from Dave, or is it just wishful thinking on someone's part? I will be very surprised if they do, given their commitment to the sandpit.

Colin, the article just above states:

"Mrs Deans said four air forces were involved for the first time – the Royal New Zealand Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force, representatives from the Royal Air Force and French pilots from New Caledonia. "

As The Flying Surfer says, maybe it doesn't mean an aeroplane. But the "rumour" comes from the Airshow's organiser.

And are these "representatives" bringing an aeroplane with them? It appears not, so as it is an AIR show, they can't actually represent an aircraft or an air force now can they. Perhaps they'll wear a Typhoon suit and run up the runway?

[Brett]

They can represent their air forces by jumping out of an aeroplane, or by giving a speech, or conferring an award or honour, or by setting up a recruitment tent, etc. They don't have to bring an aeroplane to be a representative.

I also interpret the statement to say that staff from the various forces will be there, but not necessarily aircraft from those forces.

Of course, the RAF might have some charity or training long-distance flight planned to co-incide with the airshow, so they may arrive in a transport or training aircraft and wave the flag a bit. Or maybe they have a Herc in the country delivering furniture or equipment for the embassy. I doubt we will see a strike aircraft from them.

Cheers,

Brett

[the_flying_surfer]

"And are these "representatives" bringing an aeroplane with them? It appears not, so as it is an AIR show, they can't actually represent an aircraft or an air force now can they. Perhaps they'll wear a Typhoon suit and run up the runway? "

Pretty sure we represent the Air Force whenever we are in uniform (and out of it), not just when we are away with our aircraft.....

[Dave Homewood]

Yes, all true. The factor I rea into the statement, or misread, was that Mrs Deans stated four air forces were involved in the airshow and then listed four air forces. Coming along to watch is hardly 'involved'

[skyhawkdon]

Unless the RAF (and French) are bringing an aircraft with them to display this statement is misleading and irrelevant to promoting the show. A sign perhaps that the organisers are short of "headline" acts? By now I would have expected there to be more "firm" details on the aircraft attending. Lets hope they have a few surprises up their sleeve!

[beagle]

Maybe there is a Skytrain Exercise on at the same time as they often bring a Casa 235 down.